If you’ve ever put off an important task, like doing your taxes, by cleaning your kitchen - that’s procrastination. You know it’s a bad idea to delay, yet you do it anyway. Why do we engage in behavior that has such obvious negative consequences? And what can we do about it? Listen to a conversation between interviewer Yanti Danoekoesoemo and Professor Joel Anderson, philosopher at Utrecht University. Live from Betweter Festival 2022.